Sunday, November 1, 2020

We do not know what we do not know ....

What we have here is an unidentified man sort of leaning against a big, old Cottonwood tree, which some argue is more than 100 years old. Since I have not been around nearly that long, I cannot vouch for the claim one way or another. There evidently is a way of learning the age of a tree without cutting it down to count the rings. Someday, maybe, I will be at the right place at the right time to check out the method. To celebrate our tree, we have two video offerings: "Trees," a Joyce Kilmer poem, and a taste of Old Norse mythology called Yggdrasil and Odin.

Flights of fancy & other nonsense ....

This is my mother's pet tree. I suppose I could say it is mine, as well -- although I never realized it at the time. This area once was part of a lakeshore yard in my hometown. My mother grew up in a house which once was only a few paces away, and I spent the first few months of my life there -- although I never realized it at the time.

The tree is a Cottonwood, and first was noted and recorded around the  turn of the 19th Century into the 20th. Old codgers claimed to have observed the tree about the time the region was being settled in the 1870s, but since many Cottonwood trees existed in the area not much credence was placed in their "recollections."

Sometime before my first birthday, the house was sold and another purchased for our family conveniently located at the edge of the downtown area. Another family moved into the "lake house." I was inside it a few times when I was a boy, but I did not know of my own history as a resident of the house until I was somewhere around thirty.

I envied my mother for having grown up adjacent to this tree and for having her own private, lakeside, sand beach. I had more-or-less "adopted" the lake when I was a young boy and later could only imagine the times I would have had living on it. Of course, I suppose either the tree or the lake might have killed me, too. We do not know what we do not know ....

When the parents of the family which had replaced my own in the house died, the city purchased the lot from their children and the parcel next to it, tore down the houses and turned the property into a public park and beach. Of course, boylike creature that I am, I remain jealous and envious and feel all the other things I should not about this situation.

Whenever I return to the hometown, which is very seldom, I stop by the old tree and touch it and ask if it remembers me from when I was an infant. So far, the old tree has remained silent. When you live more than a century, I suppose you have encountered too many people to remember them all .... especially long-ago babies who now have become sort of handsome / intelligent / wise / modest / daring young men ....




13 comments:

Anita said...

What big beautiful tree!Big big Ask !Is it you standing there?

Most be wonderful to visit places where you spent your childhood

Nice to read!

Also the poems about trees are nice.Sad he died at the battlefield ,such a young and handsome man

The viking tree Yggdrasil and Odin video are both fascinating. There are so many who like Norse tradition and mythology. Few people know anything more than what the viking series shows

Fascinating the hanging man who is in the picture in the video. I do not understand the connection there with Yggdrasil and Odin. I see they show pictures that can be interpreted as Adam and Eve in the garden. They have the same thing in the Norse faith Ask and Embla that we have talked about before
Humans were created from earth according to Voluspå, while the younger Edda says that they were formed by two tree trunks. According to the latter, a man was formed of ash and a woman of an elm: Ash and Embla. Odin breathed life into them, Høne gave them sense and ability to move, and Lodur gave them blood and outward resemblance to the gods. In the end, the gods gave humans a destiny by creating three female beings, the Norse. But Norse mythology contains no fall myth. There is no trace of humans setting themselves up against the gods, nor that they are subordinate, and in addition the two sexes, Ash and Embla, are created at the same time, and they are equipped equally and are not subordinate to each other, but are equal.

The last people who survived Ragnarok are Liv og Livtrase. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%ADf_and_L%C3%ADf%C3%BErasir

When looking at similarities from all continents at almost the same time (Creation myth)
They are all very similar/but the norse do not judge
But I will not talk more about this now

Hope you are fine and all is well
Greetings Anita

Kelly said...

That's one big tree! I'm not sure if we have any Cottonwoods in our neck of the woods and will have to ask my husband (who is a forester by training). There aren't many trees for which I have any emotional attachment. I'm still a bit sad for a wild Dogwood that was sacrificed during a recent thinning on our property. I never thought to mark it, but too late now.... Our two younger children planted Pine trees that came with their Happy Meals years ago and one of those is still standing in front of our house. (the other went the way of the Dogwood)

I cannot imagine living somewhere without an abundance of trees. And if I'm going to be particular, I like a good mix of hardwoods and softwoods.

Fram Actual said...

It is I ....
It is me ....
It is a facsimile of Fram ....
Take your pick, Anita .... the photograph probably is all three ....

Anita comments: "Fascinating the hanging man who is in the picture in the video. I do not understand the connection there with Yggdrasil and Odin."

Fram replies with a paragraph straight from Wikipedia: "Odin was hanging from the branch of Yggdrasill, the cosmic World Tree, with a rope around his neck. He was also suffering from a wound that was pierced by his own spear, Gungnir. Odin remained there for nine days and nine nights."

I am not sure what the precise origin of that explanation is beyond the "Poetic Edda" and the "Prose Edda," Anita, so I am not in a position to dispute it. Personally, I am more inclined to think of Odin bound in the tree by ropes or, perhaps, even attached by spikes in a crucifixion manner. I have a tendency to think many of the religious tales originated from a common source many millennia before they were recorded in books like the Eddas and the Torah and the Talmud and the Bible.

You have a good understanding of the Old Norse religion, I think. I call it religion in this instance, rather than using the term mythology because that is what it was and I also think the term "mythology" is overused. My own feeling is that the Old Norse explanation for the actual creation of the universe is the most logical of all. And, I would hope its "vision" of the end will be the actual end or, rather, the second beginning.

Now, it is my turn to say: "But I will not talk more about this now ...."

Yes, I hope all is well and fine for you, too, Ms. Norway. Life is quiet and calm and boring these days for me, and I am hoping to remedy that in the not too distant future.

Be safe and take care and think lefse now that winter is nigh .... yummy ....

Fram Actual said...

One of my goals has been to experience as much of life as I am able, which partially explains the Marine Corps. Through it, for instance, I had a taste of desert living (Twentynine Palms) and a mountain life style (Pickel Meadows). I once had an offer to work at the newspaper in Casa Grande, Arizona, but jumped ship, in a manner of speaking, when an offer came from the newspaper in Michigan. The desert sand of Arizona did not match the waters of Lake Superior and surrounding woodlands in my mind.

I agree with you, Kelly. Nothing can match living amongst trees, especially when there is a "pond" nearby.

My son is the tree expert in our family. Although he is surrounded by them, he occasionally will buy one of some variety which is not present where he lives and go to some lengths to ensure its survival. Actually, his interests include all living creatures and plant life. I tease him that he should have been a farmer, which would have been a possibility. Both sets of my grandparents owned farms .... I was the first on my mother's side to break out of the agricultural mold.

With reference to your remark at your blog about a new version of, "Death on the Nile," I did check and apparently it was released on October 23 with Kenneth Branagh portraying Hercule Poirot. That alone scratches it from my list.

My attention span regarding television and films and contemporary music has begun to slip a bit, too. My excuse is too much of the "same old" and too many minimally-talented actors playing parts they are not equipped to handle. The same is true of musicians and composers.

So, take care and stay safe, Kelly .... see you here and there .... you, maybe, should think lefse, too ....

Liplatus said...

Gorgeous beautiful tree. Hopefully it will grow in peace for a long time to come.
Tree is like a living being evoking love.
The age of a tree is calculated from the number of branches coming from the annual rings or trunk of the tree.
Nearby there are a lot of big trees felled, I'm sad.
How nice it has been to follow the life of birds and squirrels on the branches.
I understand if the tree is felled when it is likely to rot. It can be a danger to passers-by.
Thanks for the beautiful nature video. I saved it to my YouTube videos.

Fram Actual said...

Yes, Liplatus, it is a "Gorgeous beautiful tree. Hopefully it will grow in peace for a long time to come."

I once lived alongside a road in which a number of Cottonwood trees similar in size had been planted a few generations before in a row along the edge of a farm field. I drove the road to and from work every day. At some point, I noticed one tree had been cut down; then another; then another until all of them were gone. I later learned the present property owner had them cut down because they blocked the sunlight from his crops. That is the story of too many trees .... humankind destroys them to make way for its concept of "progress" and for economic benefit.

The video is interesting and beautiful. I am glad you like it. The music is from, "Vindarnas Hus," by Ulf Söderberg.

Thank you, Liplatus, for coming here and for commenting. I agree with you: "Tree is like a living being evoking love."

Smareis said...

Boa noite Fram!
Que beleza de foto em?
Sua mãe foi uma privilegiada por ter crescido ao lado desta árvore e por ter sua própria praia particular de areia à beira do lago.
Na verdade, essa árvore deve lembrar muito bem de você, ela não te responde mais sente sua vibração. Pesquisadores descobriram que as plantas, flores, enfim a natureza adora ouvir música. É bem curioso pois cada planta reagia a um estilo de música.
Adorei sua postagem Fram. As imagens do segundo vídeo são maravilhosas.
O primeiro vídeo a poesia me parece muito bonita. Gostei dessa frase.
“Poemas são feitos por tolos como eu, mas só Deus pode fazer uma árvore”.
Eu volto pra ler a postagem anterior.

Eu tive um acidente e machuquei o pulso e tive que dá uma pausa no teclado. Foi nada grave.
Muito sorrisos daqui pra ti!

Rajani Rehana said...

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Fram Actual said...

I think The Tree and I are friends now, Smareis. I do not visit it often, but I am quite certain it recognizes me now as an adult since I make it a point to stop and to talk with it whenever I drive by it.

Again, The Tree probably only saw me a few times when I was an infant, then I was abruptly gone and near it only rarely as a boy, at which time I did not even know I had lived in the house for a few months after my birth. I have explained this to The Tree, but somehow it is unimpressed and will not respond.

Yes, my mother was lucky and privileged to have The Tree and the lake in her yard. The situation was not bad for me, either. I could see the lake from the kitchen window in the house where I grew up, and all I had to do was go out my back door and trot something less than 200 yards to be by it.

I am glad you liked the post, Smareis, and enjoyed the videos.

It is too bad you hurt your wrist. You are fortunate it was not serious. I have had a few broken bones, including a wrist. I had to wear a cast from elbow to the fingertips for six weeks. To complicate matters, I was working at a newspaper and had to type and do desk work. By the time the cast came off, I had become fairly proficient typing with the fingers of one hand and essentially one fingertip of the other hand.

My reply to your comment is tardy. I do have sort of an excuse: We are experiencing some great weather with the temperature reaching 80 degrees Fahrenheit today. When god made trees, it is too bad he made leaves to fall in the autumn. I took advantage of the weather and spent a good portion of the day collecting five, 30-gallon bags of leaves. That was the second round of leaf collecting this year, and I am certain there will be two more -- provided the snows of winter hold off a while longer.

Thank you, Smareis, for coming and for commenting and for the many smiles and, mostly, for your presence in my life. Take care / be safe / stay sweet ....

Fram Actual said...

Thank you, for the kind words, Rajani Rehana ....

My philosophy regarding my blog goes something like this: I write what I please when I please. If someone reads what I have written -- good. If someone who has read what I have written takes the time to write a comment -- even better.

I think that sort of goes along with the title of your blog -- "Myexperience" ....

I spent only a few minutes at your blog and will return in a while to take a longer, closer look at it .... promise ....

Sus' said...

Quite old tree. If u r from bay area, arent there older and bigger trees, Red trees? Those are magnificent!! Sorry my blog is in Finnish only but therre are lots of pics, Sus'huets which is my art, silhouets of thoughts.

Had to visit cos your picture, Sus' = Susi = wolf, my poweranimal. ;)

Fram Actual said...

My current lair is about 2,000 miles driving distance from San Francisco and away from the giant redwood trees of California, Sus' .... I am in Saint Paul, Minnesota. I first visited San Fran when I was in the Marine Corps, and made regular stops there for a few years.

As for Minnesota, there are a number of huge cottonwoods in the southwestern part of the state, where I "originated" and where this one is located .... and, a number of huge pines, both red and white, and, probably, other old-growth species in the Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness of northern Minnesota.

I took a quick peek at your blog and will return for a closer look. Internet translation devices are so good these days that languages other than English do not frighten me away. Your art is interesting to me.

Thank you, Sus', for coming to visit me and for writing a comment .... take care and be safe .... my "totem," by the way, is the bear ....

Something special ....