Friday, July 13, 2018

The most difficult task

Are the people who live in Dull, Scotland, actually dull and dense .... or those who live in Boring, Oregon, really boring or tedious? Undoubtedly no, they are not .... but, most certainly eyebrows are raised when occupants of those municipalities explain where they reside.

Two remarks by Thomas Hudson
In Ernest Hemingway's novel
"Islands in the Stream"
Published posthumously in 1970

"Happiness is often presented as being very dull but, he thought, lying awake, that is because dull people are sometimes very happy and intelligent people can and do go around making themselves and everyone else miserable."

"I would rather have a good Marine, even a ruined Marine, than anything in the world when there are chips down."

What did you mean by that?

It is not unusual for me to "complain" that communication between individuals is the most difficult task in the world. This is especially true of "written conversation" and, to a lesser degree, to talk on the telephone.
 
The elements which make communication most difficult come when the individuals are not speaking face-to-face, which prevents hearing the tone of voice and seeing facial expressions. Also, any number of words have any number of meanings, and when the talk is between two people who are pretty much strangers to each other, there often is a misunderstanding over which meaning the speaker has on his mind when he uses a certain word.
 
Add to that conversation between two individuals who do not have a common language. For instance, I once wrote to a non-English speaking young lady that I thought she was "a silly girl." She interpreted "silly" in the dictionary sense of the word as being a "foolish" girl. I had meant it in the sense of her being "funny."

In the instance of Thomas Hudson in the Ernest Hemingway quote, I am reasonably certain his use of the word "dull" was not in reference to a village by that name in Scotland and not to the people who reside there .... but, then again, who can be absolutely certain? I assume there are at least a few "happy" people in the community of Dull who are not actually "dull" .... but, an assumption is only an assumption ....

For strangers and for individuals who do not have a common language, it is easy to misinterpret meanings of words, especially those with a variety of meanings or nuances, which is why I think communication, arguably, is the most difficult task in the world.




21 comments:

Smareis said...

Imagem bem curiosa Fram , e o lugar devem ter muitos mistérios. Sabe que fiquei curiosa e fui pesquisar algo a respeito de Boring, Oregon. Não tive muito retorno, mas fiquei sabendo do monte. Sei que esse monte não está na sua postagem, mas achei lindo a imagem dele. Esse Monte Majestoso está situado em Boring Fram ? Deve ser uma vista linda. As pesquisas dizem que muitos lugares em Boring oferecem vistas excelentes e dramáticas do Monte. O capô do monte se eleva a 3.000 metros acima do nível do mar e tem um total de 12 geleiras. A vista deve ser incrível. Os moradores deveriam se orgulhar, ser grato por viver num lugar desse. Parece fantástico.

Às vezes é difícil a comunicação com as pessoas quando não se fala o mesmo idioma. Muitas vezes a tradução de um idioma para o outro às vezes tem um significado diferente em relação a palavra comum que usamos em cada idioma. Como você disse acima a tradução de “boba” pra “tola”. O meu dicionário português também tem essa mesma tradução “boba” pra “tola”. Só que traz outros significados, como tola, infantil, ingênua, simples, palhaça, boboca, tudo significa a mesma coisa.

A língua portuguesa, com cerca de 10 mil verbos e uma coleção de sinônimos, parônimos, antônimos, palavras variantes é uma das lindas e difíceis da comunicação ocidental e mesmo mundial. Exceções, regências e conjugações verbais da língua portuguesa estão entre os principais obstáculos para o estrangeiro. Com as novas regras de ortografia, parece ter se tornado ainda mais complexo.
Até os próprios brasileiros atropela às vezes quando escreve.Todos os idiomas que nãos sejam o da gente são difíceis. Aprender outro idioma é necessário tempo e muita prática. Porque se lê de uma forma, e escreve de outra a maioria das palavras, principalmente o inglês. Mas conhecer pessoas com outro idioma é muito prazerosos, a gente vai aprendendo.

Mas voltando o assunto das duas observações de Thomas Hudson. Uma coisa é certa, as pessoas tediosas muitas vezes são com toda certeza mais felizes do que as atiladas, inteligentes. E com certeza deve existir muitas pessoas super"felizes" na comunidade de Dull.
Pra finalizar espero que tenha entendido o que quis dizer a respeito do Boring, Oregon. Com toda certeza a comunicação é a coisa mais difícil do mundo, mas a gente vai tentando entender um idioma aqui e outro ali. Risos. Nunca tinha lido algo a respeito de Boring, Oregon, vou pesquisar mais um pouco a respeito da população.
Sua postagem foi bem finalizada, e casou bem em relação ao tema comunicação, tarefa difícil, finalizando com os vídeos que é um idioma dificil de se comunicar, o português do Brasil. Que parece mais não é, igual o português de Portugal.As diferenças entre o Português do Brasil e o Português de Portugal são relacionadas não somente ao vocabulário, mas também costumam ocorrer na fonética e na sintaxe. Cada um se comunica do seu modo, com suas gírias e costumes,a diferença entre os vocabulários é muito grande. A tradução e escrita também.
Então é isso Fram, acho que escrevi foi é muito. Espero que consiga entender, alias sei que me entende quando escrevo. Eu acho, risos!

Aplausos , ficou excelente a postagem.
Bom fim de semana e muitos sorrisos pra você.

Smareis said...

Ah! esqueci de dizer que o segundo vídeo é linda a letra,"Eu quero ser feliz Agora". Montenegro caprichou nesse poema.
Mas ouça essa musica desse vídeo que te envio o link. Poema quebradoA letra é um poema lindo.
Até mais Fram!

Fram Actual said...

I do not have time to respond to your comments right now, Smareis .... I am leaving for the airport to visit with my youngest daughter for a while. She is changing flights here on a "jaunt" from the West Coast to the East Coast, and we will meet for lunch and a rather brief trip to the Mall of America for her to buy a "few things." I would have mentioned this earlier, but, with her, a person never actually knows she will be arriving until you receive a telephone call from her telling you that she is on her way .... hmmmm ....

This evening, maybe, or tomorrow, my life will return to normal .... I think ....

Fram Actual said...

To be honest, Smareis, I never had heard of Boring, Oregon, until I wrote this post. I knew of Dull in Scotland, and was looking for a suitable illustration when I stumbled onto Boring and decided to mention it, too. I suppose I also could have mentioned Bland in Australia, since I noticed that at the same time, but for whatever reason decided two examples were adequate.

I assume the mountain you mention is Mount Hood, which is, to say the least, magnificent. I never have set foot in Oregon, but expect to sooner or later. My youngest daughter recently moved from Tacoma, Washington, to Portland, and it was she who flew through the Twin Cities on Saturday and with whom I had lunch. And, looking further, I now see that Boring is about a dozen miles from Portland. Perhaps, I shall have my own photograph of Mount Hood to post.

I suppose I was being lazy when I wrote my example of "silly," as in "silly girl." I should have been more specific and noted that the young lady stopped with the first definition as "having or showing a lack of common sense or judgment; absurd and foolish," (or words to that effect) rather than reading on to other definitions. My own notion of the word "silly" is to think of someone as "funny." If she knew me better, she probably would have known and understood that and not become angry with me.

Yes, I do understand almost everything you say/write, and occasionally make an "educated guess" about something. I have written about dialects and accents in a few posts. There are regional accents all across the United States .... some I like, some I do not like, some I can barely understand. A "deep Southern" accent, for instance, is one I do not like and often have trouble understanding. One I call a "Missouri/Oklahoma drawl" I enjoy very much. Another example: I enjoy watching British "mystery shows" on television, but there are a few in which I am lucky if I can understand one word in every twenty due to the accent of the speakers, so (sadly) I do not even try to watch them.

I very much like both the songs, Smareis, probably the first one a bit better and the second one mostly for the interaction among the musicians near the end.

Oswaldo Montenegro has a marvelous voice. There are occasions when I encounter a musician or a singer from another country and I do not understand why he/she is not better known in the United States. Oswaldo is one such individual.

So, once again, Smareis, thank you, for your presence and your words. I am sorry for the delay in replying here. I hope you understand my situation. I also hope your Sunday is a good day for you and to you.

Take care, stay safe and think of me looking through my window watching magnificent, huge, billowy, white clouds drifting down from the north as I write this .... it is a good omen, I think ....

Smareis said...

Pelo que li no Wikipédia Fram, Boring é uma comunidade não registada no Condado de Clackamas , Oregon , Estados Unidos. A comunidade foi oficialmente construída em 1903, depois que a Portland Railway, Light and Power Company construiu uma linha de trem elétrico, que operava de Portland a Cazadero . A antiga ferrovia agora faz parte do Springwater Corridor , uma ferrovia que começa em Boring e termina na Eastbank Esplanade ao longo do rio Willamette, no sudeste de Portland. O Boring Lava Field , uma extinta área de campo vulcânico que compreende o terreno entre o centro de Portland e o centro de Portland, recebeu o nome da comunidade.
O monte que falei é esse mesmo Fram. Mount Hood . Vi uma linda imagem do Mount Hood refletido no lago mirror . Muito bonita. Deve ser um lindo lugar.
Que legal que você foi almoçar com sua filha.
Sobre a palavra “tola”, muitas vezes soa como ofensa ou outros adjetivos. Às vezes uma palavra que para você é legal, para mim, já no meu dicionário não é. Por isso às vezes é complicado a tradução de algumas palavras em outro idioma que não seja o da própria pessoa.

Muitas pessoas entendem que “tola” é o mesmo que: absurda, burra, inepta, lerdaça, néscia, otária, presunçosa, sonsa e ai por diante. Oswaldo Montenegro para mim é um dos melhores da MPB. Têm muitos outros bons, assim, como o Rei Roberto Carlos que é da minha cidade e tem até um museu em homenagem a ele. Os estrangeiros tem uma forma que relacionar musica brasileira com o Rei Roberto Carlos. Porque sempre foi o mais conhecido do BRASIL. Os shows de Roberto Carlos sempre são feito dentro de grandes Navios.

No Brasil tem também bandas de rock maravilhosas que fazem um sucesso absurdo. O que mata a música brasileira é o maldito estilo Fank que é muito usado nas favelas. Rola muito dinheiro e todos os fanqueiros ganha rios de dinheiro com essa música. Num show de fank rola tudo de ruim, coisas piores que nem gostaria de mencionar.
Fram sobre o vídeo da minha postagem, o Lenine é bom também, faz um sucesso absurdo aqui. E a música dele tem tudo a ver com a minha postagem. Fala sobre paciência e a vida corrida.
Espero que tudo corra bem na semana Fram.
Deixo sorriso e até mais.

Smareis said...

Falando em banda de rock, ja tivemos rock bom por aqui Fram. O Brasil agora está mais pra Sertanejos universitários e fank ultimamente risos.

Vou deixar un link pra você olhar de banda de rock BRASIL que gosto muito. Aqui se tem rock bom também.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEJTwStGwOU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv0oB7CfAAc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgRsjLgkjb4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF1uOF1-pRg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4CQJyK_ZmA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fF5imtuMQk


Smareis said...

Fram esqueci da história linda de uma banda que era a melhor do Brasil. Ja faz 17 anos que a banda "Paralana do sucesso" era uma das mais famosa no Brasil até um acidente levar o vocalista Hebert Vianna pra cadeira de roda. Nesse acidente aéreo ele perdeu a mulher e quase morreu, ficou desengando pelos médicos, não falava, e com o tempo foi recuperando a voz e voltou a apresentar. O cantor contou busca, através da música, "canalisar a dor" que sente. Uma peculiaridade da questão da música é você conseguir canalizar com igual intensidade alegrias e tristezas profundas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZmOVlCSCt8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCEjlX9tRx4

Essa música "Aonde Quer Que Eu Vá" tem uma letra linda. Ele fez pra esposa que morreu.

Hebert Vianna é um milagre, as vezes não dá pra acreditar que ele superou a esse desastre terrivel.


Fram Actual said...

Since my youngest daughter now lives in Portland, I almost certainly will make the time to travel there and to spend a few days with her. I would like to see Mount Hood, too. Since I consider myself sort of too old and/or sort of too lazy for any climbing adventures, I probably will have to be satisfied with a helicopter tour of the mountain and its summit. In any case, I am certain I will enjoy my stay in Oregon.

In terms of words having several meanings and open for interpretation, they also have changing spellings and some even change in actual meaning over time. I can read Old English and Middle English with some degree of competency. Middle English was the language used in jolly old England during the time of Geoffrey Chaucer during the 1300s. The opening lines of his prologue to, "The Canterbury Tales," are these:

Whan that Aprill, with his shoures soote
The droghte of March hath perced to the roote
And bathed every veyne in swich licour ....

In contemporary English, those lines would read:

When in April, with its (rain) showers sweet
The drought of March has pierced to the root
And bathed every vein in such liquor ....

In the sense of "changing meanings," I could mention words of those times which mean exactly the opposite in these times, or are associated with something entirely different .... "exhale," for example, once meant to draw a sword. I will let it go at that for now. Knowing too much in certain areas is one reason I enjoy remaining in the shadows .... and, besides that, I often get myself confused simply thinking about it and before long, I have written a thousand words in an attempt to explain the "changed meaning" of one word.

You introduced me to a Brazilian rock band named Yahoo in 2014 and I just listened to one of the group's songs today. I also like the Argentinian rock band Rata Blanca, especially when an "old-time Englander" from Deep Purple, like Glenn Hughes, is part of the concert. I noticed Hughes has been in Brazil again this year. He must be well liked there. You also introduced me to a young guitar soloist whose name escapes me at the moment.

I am sure there are many great bands in Brazil and in countries scattered around the world, and it is bands like them and fabulous individual singers and musicians whose lack of acclaim in the United States I cannot understand. I suppose part of it -- probably most of it -- is never quite being in the right place at the right time.

I do like Lenine, and I wondered if the music was related to your words in your post. It is just that I like Oswaldo Montenegro better. I also will check out King Roberto Carlos.

The translator device failed me with the word "fank" -- as in "the damn Fank style." I still am laughing about your way of describing it, Smareis, whatever it might be ....

I did listen to Jota Quest and Capital Inicial, and did enjoy both singers/bands. I did try the last two in your last message (Paralana of Success), and the reply was that the "uploader" had not made them available to anyone in "your country" .... meaning in the United States. I periodically receive such messages. I will check out the remaining four in my morning.

Speaking of morning, I am running low on today's quota of energy. The weekend was busy for me and this day has been, too. I will read your notes again in the morning in search of omissions on my part and catch up with you then ....

In the meanwhile, Smareis, be safe and take care and here are a few smiles for you from Sao Paulo, Minnesota .... I wish you the best of everything .... good night, from me to you ....

Fram Actual said...

Well, Smareis, I surprised myself.

Rather than waiting for my morning, I listened to the rest of your links. Among them, I like Jota Quest best. I listened to three other songs by that band. I still prefer Oswaldo Montenegro among all those you recommended.

And, after watching those bands and the audience reaction to their performances, I have figured out where I went wrong .... instead of buying a rifle and a shotgun and "studied" hunting when I was ten years old, I should have bought a guitar and studied Portuguese.

Smareis said...

Pelas fotos que vi na internet do Monte Hood visto de qualquer ângulo deve ser encantador. De helicóptero a visão ainda deve ser bem bonita. Fazer uma escalada pela montanha e seu cume deve ser cansativo e bem perigoso.

Muitas coisas mudaram na questão do acordo ortográfico de uns tempo para cá Fram, principalmente aqui... Desde que teve a mudança na língua portuguesa há cinco anos, muitos brasileiros ainda se perdem quando escreve. O português é um idioma bem difícil para alguns, e fácil para outros. Com as novas regras de ortografia, ele parece ter se tornado ainda mais complexo. Costumam dar dor de cabeça em quem vem de outro país e tenta aprender o português do Brasil. O mais difícil são as regras de gramática e as palavras que possuem duplo significado. Têm muitos verbos, verbetes, substantivos, preposições, adjetivos muitas variações nas palavras dependendo do que se quer dizer. Toda língua tem as suas dificuldades, não tem como dizer se é mais ou menos difícil que outra até porque o termo "difícil" é completamente subjetivo, o que é difícil para uma pessoa não é para outra.

O Brasil tem muita música boa, o problema é que o FANK está dominando o BRASIL. Você diz que não entendeu o que é FANK. É um estilo musical que não agrada a maioria. Onde tem baile fank, sempre tem muita violência muita droga, muito barulho, sem falar em coisa pior. No Brasil o estilo que está mais em alta é o sertanejo, e o fank. só que o fank é tocado mais nas favelas e nos morros, época de carnaval domina as praias. Muitas violência, barulho.

Olha esse link e você vai entender porque falo que o fank não é bem aceito pela maioria.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY3m6hMyh3g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbXg6CWUXuo

Esse video do Nego do Borel foi gravado a uma semana e a música ja estourou. Ainda bem que você não fala português, pra ouvir o significado da música risos. Desculpa pelo video mais é a forma de você entender o que Fank. Ainda bem que temos sertanejos que estão fazendo um sucesso absurdo.
Ótimo essas música. Brasileiro adora esse estilo sertanejo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bUUHI8tQdQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrOIwpbust8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bckOyVNzBxc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZBegf6VSyE

O que não entender pode me falar certo Fram!
Continuação de boa semana!.
Um punhado de sorriso.

Smareis said...

Então Fram, o Jota Quest é um dos meus favoritos também, todas músicas é muito bonita, e os show dele vale apena assistir, e de primeira qualidade, assim como o do Montenegro é de alto nível.
O mais Fram se cuida e muita paz pra você.
Sorrisos!

Fram Actual said...

Yes, climbing Mount Hood is neither easy nor safe. It is not like going on a hike .... actual climbing is involved, and it is not a place for inexperienced people. A number of climbers have died on the mountain. On the news yesterday, for example, I saw a helicopter rescue of climbers in progress.

In the Marine Corps, I had specific training in mountain warfare, which included gaining proficiency in climbing/mountaineering techniques. More than once, too, I have come down a rope from a hovering helicopter and been in a group extraction at the same time by cable from a "chopper" .... I enjoyed those things then, and we would joke about it, but that life style was a few years ago.

Smareis wrote: "Every language has its difficulties, cannot say if it is more or less difficult than another because the term "difficult" is completely subjective, what is difficult for one person is not for another."

My usual illustration is something like this: "One man's fantasy is another man's reality." You are exactly correct, Smareis. Ask five witnesses to a bank robbery, for instance, and you probably will hear five differing stories. We see and we hear not only what we think our eyes saw and what our ears heard, but also what our education and our experience tell us. Mind and memory do not always coincide .... then, too, imagination has its own way of entering into the equation.

Well, Smareis, I now know what you mean by "fank style" music. My reaction to it was entirely negative, and I thought it was pathetically funny and miserably sad. I could see elements in it of "hip-hop" and "rap," but since I never have watched an entire video of those styles I cannot estimate how much of "fank" derives from them .... but, on the surface, they do seem similar. Anyway, I do not like it and would call it rhythmic noise as opposed to music -- sort of like military marching cadences.

I did like/enjoy Victor and Leo and the "sertanejo style" of music. The brothers have soothing, gentle voices and perform calm, relaxing songs .... at least, those that I heard. Remember, though, while I do like and do listen to performers like Victor and Leo and David Garrett with his violin and classical composers such as J.S. Bach and Johann Pachelbel, I have a bit of a wild side that relishes music such as that of bands like Deep Purple and Rainbow and Nightwish: Rock 'n' roll forever, baby ....

In many ways, my tastes in music are narrow and/or contradictory. Why would I listen to, "Canon in D Major," one moment and minutes later be turning up the volume for Deep Purple blasting out, "Burn," and other "canons" of rock? Some, including me depending upon my mood, might say it is inexplicable. I seldom think about it anymore, much less try to explain it beyond saying: It simply is me, it is the way I am ....

It is a beautiful day here -- sunny and mild; the way summer should be -- so, I think I will retreat to the outdoors and count clouds for a while. Sound like a plan?

By the way, I do and I will let you know when there is something I do not understand ....

As for you, Smareis, I offer you a handful of smiles and wish lots of peace for you .... see you here and there .... maybe, in a cloud drifting by .... that would be nice ....

Smareis said...

Bom dia Fram!
Aqui já é quase três da madrugada. Dei uma passadinha rápida e volto com mais calma. Sobre o fank agora você entendeu como é ruim e negativo para a sociedade em geral. E eu falo que estraga a música MPB. O funk [fânc] é um gênero musical que se originou no seu país, ai no Estados Unidos quando músicos afro-americanos, misturando soul, jazz e rhythm and blues, criaram uma nova forma de música rítmica e dançante. E aqui no Brasil se deu o nome de FANK. Época de verão e carnaval aqui no Brasil a gente só ouve esse ritmo alto nas ruas, nas praias. Em baile fank a violência predomina com muita droga, e violência de tudo que é lado. Assaltos nas ruas, acidentes, uma coisa muito negativa. Mês de fevereiro é a pior época são cinco dias de carnaval e todo dia tem fank nas ruas, nas favelas, nas praias, nos morros. Parece doença contagiosa. Fica até perigoso sair em época de carnaval, devido à violência.
Quanto o Victor e Léo são uma dupla que faz muito sucesso e tem muito público. Existe muita música boa aqui no Brasil. ( MENOS FANK) Mas eu ainda gosto mais de rock. Dependendo do meu dia não é qualquer música que me agrada. Mas gosto de vários ritmos. Sou bem eclética em relação a música.
Então, até mais, um bom dia. Continuação de boa semana!
Um punhado de sorriso.

Fram Actual said...

It is interesting to me, Smareis.

I type the word "fank" into YouTube and it gives me any number of musical selections.

I type the word "fank" into the search element of the internet and it returns nothing / zero / zilch / nil in terms of music ....

For definitions, the word comes back as "a sheep pen" or "a coil or noose of rope." I suppose, in a sense, "sheep pen" might be sort of appropriate. I think I might tend to equate the word more with lemmings, if you get my drift.

The first few times I saw the word "eclectic," I thought it was a misspelling of "electric." Then, I did an internet search and discovered it is its own word. I guess I can say I am eclectic in terms of philosophy.

I am less of a night owl now than I once was, although it appears you continue to be one. My pattern these days is usually to begin getting ready for bed about midnight and be there by 12:30 and be asleep within two or three minutes. I still have that ability, as well as the ability to lie down anywhere on any surface any time of the day or night and be sleeping within minutes.

I am glad I spent a few hours outdoors yesterday. Today is almost the direct opposite in terms of the weather. The sky is entirely overcast and gray; rain is steadily falling; thunderstorms are predicted to begin soon and continue on throughout the night. Still, it is a pleasant day in its own way.

I occasionally write that I am fortunate to live where I live. It is, for the most part, a quiet street with people of all ages, all colors, all political beliefs and, it appears, all religions living on it. When I say street, it is like the letter "U" in configuration, with each leg about a block long. People who live here perhaps are too relaxed, because they allow even the youngest children to roam more or less unattended, thinking, I assume, neighbors will keep an eye on them to ensure their safety. It is much like the small town in which I grew up.

Contrarily, there are areas only a few miles away where gang and other violence is part of daily life and drug use is rampant. "Civilization is hideously fragile .... there's not much between us and the horrors underneath, just about a coat of varnish," was the warning of British novelist C.P. Snow, with whom I agree.

Now, I will listen to some classic rock and watch the rain fall .... or, maybe, try to catch up on my reading.

So, Smareis .... I send you a handful of smiles and a wish for a peaceful day and for happy, healthy times ....

Smareis said...

Boa noite Fram!
Se você pesquisar no youtube vai parecer os Funks mais tocado no Brasil. Vário grupo de Fank vai aparecer na sua pesquisa. Em vez de escrever na pesquisa "Fank", pesquise "Funk". No youtube pesquise Funk e no navegador Funk também. Vai aparecer vários grupo de Fank ou Funk. Os dois nomes são a mesma coisa. Se você quiser pesquisar o fank daquele video que te enviei. Pesquise por "NEGO DO BOREU" no youtube.
Manda um pouco de chuva pra cá. Aqui mesmo no inverno o clima está seco, e quente.
Aqui no Brasil a violência é em todo o País. Qualquer bairro é perigoso.Rio de Janeiro é a cidade mais bonita do Brasil e o mais violento devido o grande numero de favelas no morro que dá saída para as praias mais famosas do Brasil. “Ipanema” e “Copacabana”. Rio de Janeiro é um cartão postal do Brasil, pena que os governantes quase que faliu a cidade, agora estão na cadeia, espero que eles apodreçam na cadeia. Os bandido sempre estou esperando um descuido para eles agir.

Pessoa eclética é aquela que tem gostos variados e não fica preso a um estilo ou preferência. Eu sou bem eclética a respeito de músicas.
Bom fim de semana Fram
Eu volto.
Um punhado sorriso.


Fram Actual said...

I wondered if "fank" might be "funk" in English, but the translator device did not indicate that and I decided it was too obvious, so probably not .... I guess I should have followed my "guess" since it turned out that way. Well, Smareis, to the best of my recollection, I never have listened to "funk" before today, either. I doubt I will listen to any again .... it is not at all a sound I enjoy.

Rain here has been adequate .... I shall face southward and do a rain dance when my evening arrives. Who knows? It might work ....

I have another gray, rainy day to cope with .... weather patterns tend to develop and to stay around for a few days here .... beautiful weather for a few days, then not-so-nice weather for a few days. At least there were no tornados to contend with yesterday in Minnesota. Just "below" us in Iowa, twenty-seven tornados were recorded. Some of them did extensive damage and left behind a number of injuries, but, fortunately, there were no fatalities.

You frequently mention the level of violence in Brazil. Los Angeles is the city with the highest murder rate in the United States. Minnesota is not without its criminal problems, many of them due to the fact Interstate 35 extends all the way from the Mexican border at Laredo, Texas, to Duluth at the western tip of Lake Superior in Minnesota. This highway is used extensively as a pathway for the entry of drugs and gang members into the U.S. The entire interstate system is a blessing in one sense, but a curse in another.

I hope your weekend will be everything you wish it to be, Smareis, and that your weather will include mostly sunny days, but also rainy days when they are needed.

I think I see a smile breaking through the clouds here .... I will send a few of my own to greet it ....

Smareis said...

A chuva não chegou aqui Fram. A dança não funcionou. Rindo.
Poderia ser sim "funk" em inglês.
Depois das mudanças na ortografia da língua portuguesa, pode-se escrever fank ou funk. O funk também tem muitas mulheres cantora que canta o funk. Eu não gosto de funk Fram, acho que nunca vou gostar. Tem muitos palavrões e xingamento. A maioria das letras de uma música de funk e obscena. O Brasil tem muito violência devido às drogas e o funk incentiva a violência, principalmente a prostituição. Rio de Janeiro é umas cidades mais bonita do Brasil e é lá que o funk e a violência é maior.
É muito perigoso tornado. Por aqui não tem. Pelo menos ainda não tem. Mais no sul do Brasil tem tornado. Eu estou no sudeste no Brasil.
Por aqui passou alguns sorrisos. Punhado de sorrisos pra você.
Bom fim de semana!

Fram Actual said...

I have attended more than a few Indian (excuse me .... I suppose I should write Native American) powwows during my life. I cannot recall ever seeing what was described as a "rain dance" at any of them, so all I could do was ad lib with my dance and hope for the best. I will try a few variations of "my moves" later today and see if that makes any difference.

If you think I am being flippant in the use of my language, Smareis, remember I have more than a few friends who are Indians and also relatives through marriage who are, including one who was a Marine killed by "friendly fire" during the first gulf war. He was full-blood Lakota.

My latest post is sort of an after-thought .... something to keep my mind and my fingers busy for a few minutes. You will notice what appears to be a very recent version of Yahoo performing the song, "Love Bites" ("Mordida de Amor"). The lyrics and the melody of the song combine to be very beautiful when sung in Portuguese. By the way, do you know the name of the front man/lead singer? I have watched him sing in a video of a concert from thirty years ago and in this one .... his face has changed a great deal, but his voice very little over the years, I think. He has a wonderful voice.

So, I think I will try to forget about fank/funk music now. I agree with you, Smareis. I do not like it and will not listen to it.

As for violence, it rises and it falls and then rises again in the United States. It is like night and day, in a sense. Economic situations and demi-gods seem to influence its level.

I am sending my Sunday smiles -- all of them -- to you, Smareis. I hope they reach you and, maybe, some cooling, soothing rain will as well .... later ....

Smareis said...

Eu acho normal ter amigos indios Fram. Aqui no Brasil tem indio até no congresso nacional. Só não sei se são sangue puro como os teus dai. Mais há grande reserva florestal de indios aqui.
Tem video do vocalista do yahoo cantando quando ele era bem mais novo. Vou te enviar o link.Ele estava cantando em um programa. As imagens não são muito boa.
Ele se chama Zé Henrique o vocalista.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA52W7cHKOk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYfKWFSezOg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21tALGXXu60
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj8cY2o7JN0

Os sorrisos chegaram. Pegaram carona numa grande nuvens.
Boa semana Fram.
Mais punhados e punhados de sorrisos pra você.

Smareis said...

Veja esse vídeo quando yahoo gravou " Mordida de amor" nos anos 80.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhOKdo5se1Y
Estava bem diferente, mas a vóz continua a mesma.

Fram Actual said...

Thank you, for all the links, Smareis. I am assuming I have watched and listened to some of these songs already since I have "gotten into" Yahoo music, but it is sweet of you to think of me.

I will, for sure, remember the name Zé Henrique. I have seen him sing in videos when he was a young man. In the United States, he would have been called a "pretty boy" .... sort of like Brad Pitt was when he began showing up in films.

By the way, I was sort of unhappy with myself for the way I wrote my last remark and I want to add another thought to it: Whether or not my earlier comment needs clarification, I want to add this. I was being both serious and flippant in the first paragraph -- serious while trying to be a bit funny, might be the best way to describe it. In the second paragraph, I was entirely serious and trying to say people who know me really do know me. They understand who I am and where I am coming from and where I am going. I often think I am too serious about almost everything, and it does not always sound quite right when I make remarks or write commentary. Most people realize being overly serious is part of my nature and understand me and put up with it ....

Thank you again, Smareis, for the music links and for your smiles. I am glad mine did find their way to you .... clouds often are useful in addition to being beautiful .... more smiles are now en route to you .... I hope you will look for them ....

Something special ....