Friday, September 7, 2018

"Have You Ever Seen the Rain"

Here walking is John McCain being escorted by an unknown U.S. Navy officer. The year is 1973. Judging by the faces of the others in the photograph, McCain still is somewhere in North Vietnam and is on his way to home and to freedom after five and one-half years as a prisoner of war. McCain died on August 25. He was accorded the laurels of a hero of his nation and given the distinction of lying in state in the U.S. Capitol Rotunda. I have written a few thoughts about John McCain. Also included is a Vietnam-era song, "Have You Ever Seen the Rain," by Creedence Clearwater Revival. The same photograph which appears with this post is shown beginning around point 156 in the video.
 
Hero? For sure. Good guy? Maybe ....
 
These words are coming a bit late because I had mixed feelings about John Sidney McCain III. He died on August 25, 2018, four days short of his 82nd birthday. I almost did not write them at all, but finally am because McCain had a reputation for saying what he felt and what he thought. If you do not understand that sentence, find some McCain debates with George W. Bush and Barack H. Obama and you will see what I mean and what I remember. I like to think I am that way, too, say what I think, I mean, so I am writing this now ....
 
McCain was third generation United States Navy. His father and his grandfather both were admirals. He graduated from the U.S. Naval Academy in 1958. He became a naval aviator and flew ground-attack aircraft from aircraft carriers. He asked for duty in Vietnam and was assigned as a bomber pilot on an aircraft carrier in the Gulf of Tonkin. He was shot down while on a bombing mission during Operation Rolling Thunder over Hanoi in October 1967. It was his 23rd mission over North Vietnam. He was badly beaten by an angry mob when he was pulled, half-drowned from a lake.
 
McCain was a prisoner of war during the next five and one-half years in the notorious Hoa Loa Prison, where he was regularly mistreated and tortured in ways which left him permanently damaged. In 1982, McCain was elected to the United States House of Representatives, where he served two terms. He entered the U.S. Senate in 1987 and easily won reelection five times, the final time in 2016.
 
When McCain returned to America in 1973 to a fanfare of publicity and a handshake from then-President Richard Nixon, he discovered his wife since 1965, Carol, had been disfigured in a car crash three years earlier. Her car had skidded on icy roads into a telegraph pole on Christmas Eve, 1969. Her pelvis and one arm were shattered by the impact and she suffered massive internal injuries.
 
When Carol was discharged from the hospital after six months of life-saving surgery, the prognosis was bleak. In order to save her legs, surgeons had been forced to cut away huge sections of shattered bone, taking with it her tall, willowy figure. She was confined to a wheelchair and was forced to use a catheter.
 
Through sheer hard work, Carol learned to walk again. But when McCain came home from Vietnam, she had gained a lot of weight and bore little resemblance to her old self. She still walks awkwardly, with a pronounced limp. Her body is held together by screws and metal plates and, at age 80, her face is worn by wrinkles that speak of decades of silent suffering.
 
McCain divorced Carol in 1980 and married Cindy, 18 years his junior and the heir to an Arizona brewing fortune, one month later. Carol now lives at Virginia Beach, a seaside resort 200 miles south of Washington, D.C.
 
That is the non-heroic and self-centered side of McCain, who has been lauded and praised as a Vietnam War hero, a dedicated public servant, a devoted husband, father and friend.
 
Carol has said she remains on good terms with her ex-husband, who agreed as part of their divorce settlement to pay her medical costs for life. "I have no bitterness," she said in one interview. "My accident is well recorded. I had 23 operations, I am five inches shorter than I used to be and I was in hospital for six months. It was just awful, but it wasn't the reason for my divorce. My marriage ended because John McCain didn't want to be 40, he wanted to be 25. You know that happens .... it just does."
 
She is right, I think. John McCain was human -- "Human, All Too Human," as the 19th century philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche titled one of his books. Stuff happens and we all have things in our past which we could keep there if possible and, maybe, even change, if it were possible.
 
This bothers me about McCain, not fatally, but it played a role in why the 2008 presidential election was another in which I could not bring myself to vote for either candidate. I have written many negative things about Obama in the past and will not do so again now, but I did vow to leave the country if he were elected president in 2008. Obama did win. I did leave, in 2009, but I returned a few months later. Such is one of my own weaknesses.
 
What bothered me to the degree of turning into a fatal flaw in my opinion of McCain was what I interpreted to be his attitude of "never seeing a war he did not like." I will not try to explain that further at this point in time. It is possible I have been misinterpreting his "hawkish" stance regarding military interventionism by the United States. But, I do not think so.
 
For a number of years, despite his own experiences as a prisoner of war in Vietnam, my view of McCain is that I have been observing a "war lover," which is not the sort of man I would want to see as president. If that opinion offends anyone, so be it.

 


8 comments:

Anita said...

Goodmorning Fram!

I dont know anything but that John McCain but i see here on the news he was treated as a hero and that Trump was not allowed to his funeral

I think its sad to hear about his wife..and marriage that ended but who knows..things like this happen all the time

Here many couples gets divorced after such fatal happening..not because that dont love each other but for the money and help.Many are stuck with the caring all alone..and that can be very much !So when they divorce the official takes over and the remain husband or wife can visit them with love and careness and continue with their lives..

I quess so is life---

Beautiful song Fram!

Happy weekend to you and family

Fram Actual said...

I actually believe Democrats and Republicans and Independents were looking for one thing they could agree on and decided John McCain was that thing. The only difference been McCain and any number of other Americans who spent years of captivity in North Vietnam during the war was that McCain divorced his wife and married money when he got home, and spent decades in Congress. Heroic as a prisoner of the North Vietnamese -- sure. Heroic back home after the war -- not hardly.

What happened to Carol McCain began with an incident of fate = the car accident. What happened to her later was an act of weakness and selfishness and betrayal = John McCain.

I believe Donald Trump could have attended the funeral, but chose not to because he and McCain had many disagreements about politics and policy. Sarah Palin, McCain's running mate in the 2008 election, was not invited to the funeral.

I am glad you liked the music, Anita. Creedence Clearwater Revival never has been among my favorites, but the band had some songs I like, such as this one.

Thank you, Anita, for coming and for writing a comment for me. You are a sweetie, for sure ....

Kaya said...

That is an incredibly powerful post about John McCain, Fram. I was waiting for this post. I knew that sooner or later you would write it.

I didn't know about John McCain ex wife Carol much. I learned today that she was suffering tremendously after a car crash.

" My marriage ended because John McCain didn't want to be 40..." I like your thoughts about this statement. Yes, we all too human and do sometimes things others will never understand.

I always had a great respect for this remarkable man but during the presidential campaign in 2008 I was surprised about choices he made and how he handled this campaign. I remember that every day I went to forums and read what people wrote. And most of time it was so many negativity about John McCain.

What surprised me that Sara Palin wasn't invited to memorial services. That president Trump wasn't invited I can understand. But Sara Palin?...

Yes, I agree with you, Fram about not wanting to see a president as a war lover.

Thank you for writing this post, Fram. And a special thanks for Creedence. I always loved this song!

Fram Actual said...

I began the post about John McCain by noting that I almost did not write it, and that was factually correct. What pushed me over the edge to write it, so to speak, was the absurd way all the politicians were gushing over him and the incessant repetition of commentary about what an outstanding and honorable man McCain had been throughout his life. I knew there were two sides to the McCain coin regarding his life and times, so I decided to put the other side out there.

I almost paraphrased a line from William Shakespeare for the title: "I come to bury Caesar (McCain), not to praise him." But, I decided that would be just a bit too melodramatic -- even for me.

There was no reason given that I am aware of why Sarah Palin was not invited to the funeral, although I do know she has become sort of an outcast from Republican Party political circles and I assume that was at least part of the reason. The concept of the possibility of her being so close to the presidency actually frightens me more than a little now, although it did not back then. As Bobby Dylan sang: "Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now."

McCain certainly was a brave and a heroic man to stand his ground when he was a prisoner of war in North Vietnam, but I think he lacked in too many other ways to have become a president of the United States.

Thank you, Kaya, for coming and for reading and for writing a comment. I value you very much and I am very happy our paths crossed ....

Smareis said...

Deve ser muito triste ser um prisioneiro de guerra, poderia ser morto a qualquer momento. John McCain parecia uma pessoa de pavio curto, dizia o que sentia e o que achava. Também sou meia assim Fram, sempre digo o que sinto, o que penso, mesmo que isso vai contra a ideia do outro. Sou meia pavio curto, as vezes não tenho muita paciência com certas coisas, sou bem positiva quando falo algo. Me parece que John McCain colaborou bem com EUA quando era militar. Ele foi um herói da Guerra do Vietnã deve ter sofrido bastante na prisão.
Se a tecnologia de antes fosse que nem hoje era muito difícil manter prisioneiros muito tempo em cativeiros, devido tantos aplicativos de mensageiros que hoje pode ter no celular. Imagine se nessa época existisse o WhatsApp, Skype, Viber, e tantos outros, assim como redes sociais. Os soldados iam estar tão interditos que esqueceria até dos prisioneiros, risos. Sobre os casamentos que ele teve, pelo jeito as ex- esposas ficaram bem de vida, e tocaram a vida para a frente.
Obama me pareceu um bom Presidente Fram, embora não conhecer quase nada da vida política dele. Então você não votaria para o John McCain? E se ele ganhasse assim como o Obama, você também sairia do EUA. Sorrindo.
Essa canção “ Have You Ever Seen the Rain " Você alguma vez já viu a chuva ", do Creedence Clearwater Revival é muito bonita, tem outras músicas do Creedence que são bem legais também.

Boa semana Fram!
Sorrisos.

Fram Actual said...

Smareis wrote: "I am also half so, Fram, always say what I feel, what I think, even if it goes against the idea of the other. I'm a short fuse, sometimes I'm not very patient with certain things, I'm pretty positive when I say something."

You could very easily been describing me with those words, Smareis. I almost always say what I think, what I believe, no matter what the consequences might be, and sometimes I have paid a heavy price for being that way. And, in some ways, I have great patience, while in other ways, none at all.

I went through a "prisoner of war school" when I was in the Marine Corps. It was run by Marines, some of whom actually had been prisoners. The first night, we sat in mud and water up to our necks, naked, with hands tied behind our backs. The camp was in the mountains, and it was very cold there. We went through waterboarding under the theory that we might be subjected to it if we were captured and should be familiar with it. Much of the experience was "scary," even though we knew we were in "friendly" hands and no permanent damage would be done to us.

I very much doubt I could handle what John McCain and other captives of the North Vietnamese went through. In many respects, these people were giants.

Modern technology has changed everything about life, both in and out of the military. The last I was aware, cell phones and other communication devices are left behind when there is any chance of being killed or captured to prevent them from falling into enemy hands. Radios used for intramilitary communications are supposed to be wrecked, if possible. This is the case even in most civilian prisons here in the United States.

I am not certain what I would have done had McCain won the 2008 election. I cannot remember even thinking there was a chance he might win. I guess I was fortunate in not having to find out.

Barack Obama is loved by many and despised by many. Why he is adored to the point of being worshipped is a mystery to me. Why he is despised is evident to me: He blames others for his failures and he gives himself credit for good work done by others. He blatantly lies about many things. From my point of view, he is a con man .... and, in that sense, he excels.

Creedence Clearwater Revival has been a popular band throughout its history. I never have been a major fan of the group, but I do enjoy its music and I really like a few of its songs.

Thank you, Smareis, for coming here and for writing here and for your smiles. Your presence always makes me happy and content. I send you wishes for peace and joy and good fortune ....

Smareis said...

Pois é Fram, pelo jeito acho que somos um pouco parecidos. Digo pavio curto, risos. Às vezes isso incomoda algumas pessoas e a gente paga um preço alto por ser bem realista. Eu não vejo problema algum em ser sincera e bem positiva. Eu sempre falo o que penso o que sinto ainda que às vezes, o que eu penso não é o que a outra pessoa acha que eu deveria ter dito. Se eu não falo, é capaz de ter um colapso nervoso. Ninguém tem obrigação de concordar comigo, mas tem que respeitar a minha opinião. Muitas vezes, as pessoas vivem afundadas em hipocrisia e quando aparece alguém sincero demais, franco, direto, causa estranhamento. Acredito que a sociedade seria mais feliz, mais digna se as pessoas fossem menos hipócritas. Não costumo fazer tipo para agradar ninguém. Sei ser gentil, simpática, carinhosa com todas as pessoas, isso faz parte da minha essência, da minha natureza. Mas nem por isso tenho que concordar com a ideia do outro.
Ser prisioneiros de guerra deve assustador, Torturam tantos os prisioneiros, que nem sei como eles aguentam e não morre. Já assisti vários filmes sobre prisioneiros de guerra que parecia ser verdade as cenas. Um dos filmes que me marcou muito quando assisti pela primeira vez foram “LÁGRIMAS DO SOL” com Bruce Willis. Embora eu assisti outros muito mais tenso, onde prisioneiros eram colocado de cabeça pra baixo dentro de um tanque de água, outros não era alimentado e muitos dele morreram de fome e sede. Muito triste mesmo.

Boa semana Fram!
Muitos sorrisos!

Fram Actual said...

I think we are a little alike, too, Smareis. Quite possibly, more than a little.

One of the things I sometimes have told people is that I am like a mirror. The way he acts toward me, the way he treats me, the way he talks to me -- how I respond in return to those things will be a mirror image of him. In essence, treat me like an equal with respect and that is the way I will respond to you. Be nasty and belligerent with me, and that is the way I will respond to you. Many people are somewhere between those two illustrations, which, most probably, is for the best.

I like what you wrote, Smareis, and I agree with you. I always give people the benefit of a doubt and approach them in a friendly manner. On the other side of the coin, I will not tolerate anyone who acts like they are better than I am or who tries to intimidate me.

When I was a working journalist, I did a series of articles on drug use and abuse. I interviewed a few dozen individuals on all sides of the issue: Police, a judge, a prosecutor, a couple of defense attornies, clergy, business people, medical professionals, drug users and their mates and their children, drug sellers, addicts, recovering addicts and others. It worked well because I approached them all as equals and they accepted me the same way.

I have written about this in past posts. I have described myself as a chameleon .... as someone who can fit himself into any situation and present a believable persona. I probably should not have written what I just did because it presents an image of me as a role player doing whatever it takes to win people over. I have done that as a working journalist, but not otherwise. Otherwise is a guy who is pretty much up front about everything and anything.

Enough about that for now.

"Tears of the Sun," is an impressive film from several standpoints. My own experience includes having met and talked with and interviewed a few men who actually have been prisoners of war, both from World War II and from Vietnam. I heard a number of fascinating stories. As I noted in another comment, I doubt I could have made it through the things John McCain and others made it through at the "Hanoi Hilton," as it was called by them. I also actually like to think that I could never be captured, but ....

I think I had best stop now and get some sleep. I no longer hold credentials as a certified "night owl."

We shall see how the rest of the week goes for me. As for you, Smareis, I am glad you returned here and I very much like what you wrote. Thank you, for those things and for all the smiles. A good week for you, too, young lady ....

Something special ....